Legislature(2023 - 2024)GRUENBERG 120

02/14/2024 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Delayed to 1:15 PM --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 97 SELF-STORAGE UNITS: LIENS; SALES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 97(JUD) Out of Committee
+= HB 161 CIVIL LEGAL SERVICES FUND TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 161(JUD) Out of Committee
            HB  97-SELF-STORAGE UNITS: LIENS; SALES                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:25:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE announced  that the first order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 97, "An  Act relating to  self-storage facilities                                                               
for  personal   property,  including  vehicles   and  watercraft;                                                               
distinguishing self-storage  facility liens from another  type of                                                               
storage  lien;   and  excluding   self-storage  liens   from  the                                                               
treatment of certain unclaimed property."   [Before the committee                                                               
was CSHB 97(L&C).]                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:25:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ALLARD  moved  to   adopt  Amendment  2  to  CSHB
97(L&C), labeled 33-LS0392\S.5, Dunmire, 7/25/23, which read:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Page 5, line 2, following "Revenue.":                                                                                           
     Insert "The remaining balance from the sale may exceed the                                                                 
limit in AS 34.35.660."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:25:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MIKE   PRAX,  Alaska  State   Legislature,  prime                                                               
sponsor  of CSHB  97(L&C)  said Amendment  2  would clarify  that                                                               
regardless of  the limits  on the value  of the  stored property,                                                               
any proceeds  exceeding that  limit would be  turned over  to the                                                               
Department of Revenue  (DOR) after three years.  If  the money is                                                               
not collected  after three  years, the  money would  be deposited                                                               
into the state's unclaimed property fund.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:29:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER removed his  objection.  Without further                                                               
objection, Amendment 2 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:29:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ALLARD  moved to  adopt Conceptual Amendment  3 to                                                               
CSHB 97(L&C).                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:29:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ALLARD  explained  that  Conceptual  Amendment  3                                                               
would replace the word  "or" with "and" on page 3,  line 6 of the                                                               
bill,  a section  that would  require units  to send  the initial                                                               
notifications of  default.   She opined  that while  email allows                                                               
for instant communication, it is  unreliable.  Conversely, postal                                                               
mail would  reach the recipients'  mailboxes and ensure  a higher                                                               
notice delivery.   Combining both  methods would reach  a broader                                                               
audience and increase the chances of the notice being received.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER removed his objection.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:32:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  said  he   did  not  support  the  proposed                                                               
amendment.   He shared his  reservations and emphasized  that the                                                               
onus should be  placed on the renter who broke  the contract, not                                                               
the facility owner.  He opined that email would suffice.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SUMNER  objected  and  subsequently  removed  his                                                               
objection.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GROH objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:34:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 1:34 p.m. to 1:36 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:36:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ALLARD  moved to  adopt Conceptual Amendment  1 to                                                               
Conceptual Amendment  3, which would read,  "both electronic mail                                                               
and certified mail."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SUMNER objected.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:36:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRAY  commented  that  "and"  would  "cover  [the                                                               
legislature's] bases.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:37:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SUMNER  explained that  he  had  objected to  the                                                               
proposed  amendment because  certified mail  is less  timely than                                                               
first  class mail.   He  opined  that Conceptual  Amendment 1  to                                                               
Conceptual  Amendment 3  would increase  the cost  while reducing                                                               
the likelihood of the person actually receiving the notice.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ALLARD,  in  wrap  up,  shared  her  belief  that                                                               
Conceptual Amendment  1 to Conceptual  Amendment 3 was  the safer                                                               
approach.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:39:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was  taken.  Representatives Gray, Groh, Allard,                                                               
and Vance voted in favor  of Conceptual Amendment 1 to Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 3.  Representatives Carpenter  and Sumner voted against                                                               
it.  Therefore, Conceptual Amendment  1 to Conceptual Amendment 3                                                               
passed by a vote of 4-2.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:40:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call  vote was taken.   Representatives Allard, Carpenter,                                                               
Gray, Groh, and  Vance voted in favor of  Conceptual Amendment 3,                                                               
as amended.  Representative Sumner  voted against it.  Therefore,                                                               
Conceptual Amendment 3, as amended, passed by a vote of 5-1.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE sought final comment from the bill sponsor.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:41:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  asked  the   committee  to  move  the  bill                                                               
forward.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:41:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ALLARD  moved to report CSHB  97(L&C), as amended,                                                               
out  of   committee  with  individual  recommendations   and  the                                                               
accompanying  fiscal  notes.   There  being  no  objection,  CSHB
97(JUD),  was   reported  from   the  House   Judiciary  Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 161 - Amendment #1 (A.1) by Rep. Allard.pdf HJUD 2/14/2024 1:00:00 PM
HB 161